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O.B.Left 04-24-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 90991)
whip - I don't want to seem to be picking at you, but he should never drag the butt end of the club at the ball, or one day he will turn into a shanking fool!

Ive heard this from other quarters but does this jibe with Homers longitudinal acceleration , drag loading and aiming point procedure in combo. Wouldn't the Dragging towards the aiming point be a dragging of th butt end prior to the club switching ends? Butt end and Rotated Lag Pressure Point moving downplane straight line (is) towards the aiming point or ball if you so chose. Talking homers aiming point as opposed to Mr Doyle's version.

From my personal experience being a swinger random sweep relEaser for years....longitudinal acceleration , drag loading , aiming point procedure and even float loading made for a profoundly different release and strike on the ball.

whip 04-24-2012 06:10 PM

He is not versed in Tgm lingo and I try to give him thigs that he can understand one was understanding the basic premise of swinging dragging the butt end longitudinally toward the ball, as we continue it may get more precise and turn into dragging the #3pp towards a more specific aiming point and draggig it towards the inside aft quadrant but for now his new concept of using a stick to whack a ball makes sense to him and is getting results but the big improvement was with his pivot and footwork and a shorter overall swing

O.B.Left 04-24-2012 06:45 PM

Nice .

I started to get the hang of it in Basic then in Acquired Motion , started to feel the longitudinal pull . I learned to love it there and then wanted in my full swing. Hard to do if you've got a Top Arc and End with your hands up around your head. Stopping at Top however , Right Shoulder High...I could do it easily. Another thing I learned to love. No Top Arc , no bounce or run off what ever you want to call it as your Hands when at Top are on the top of the Straight Line Delivery Path. A place you can Drag Longitudinally from. Now I feel the Drag to varying degrees everywhere except putting or little tiny stiff wristed chips.

Lag and drag , momentum cocking the #2 and CF throwing it out. Uh... wish I could hit my 5 iron 210 though.

MizunoJoe 04-24-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 91002)
Ive heard this from other quarters but does this jibe with Homers longitudinal acceleration , drag loading and aiming point procedure in combo. Wouldn't the Dragging towards the aiming point be a dragging of th butt end prior to the club switching ends? Butt end and Rotated Lag Pressure Point moving downplane straight line (is) towards the aiming point or ball if you so chose. Talking homers aiming point as opposed to Mr Doyle's version.

From my personal experience being a swinger random sweep relEaser for years....longitudinal acceleration , drag loading , aiming point procedure and even float loading made for a profoundly different release and strike on the ball.

You should drag PP#3(sweetspot) at the ball. Dragging the butt can lead to the LFW staying on plane too long, preventing throwout from delivering the sweetspot to the ball. In the worst case, the hosel is delivered instead. :(

O.B.Left 04-25-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 91007)
You should drag PP#3(sweetspot) at the ball. Dragging the butt can lead to the LFW staying on plane too long, preventing throwout from delivering the sweetspot to the ball. In the worst case, the hosel is delivered instead. :(


Doesnt CF Throwout automatically at the bottom of the straight line delivery path assuming you're not holding it off with locked wrists? The Hands are clamps , the wrists are tension free ... for the swinger, for most shots ... long shots ,excluding what Lynn calls "stiff wristed putting and chipping" , well and some punch shots , knockdowns etc. Wish Lynn would talk about grip pressure vs pressure points vs wrist stiffness.... machine adjustments all .

innercityteacher 04-25-2012 11:09 AM

Decoding the word "DRAG"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe (Post 91007)
You should drag PP#3(sweetspot) at the ball. Dragging the butt can lead to the LFW staying on plane too long, preventing throwout from delivering the sweetspot to the ball. In the worst case, the hosel is delivered instead. :(

Guys, does the drag happen normally by moving ala MacDonald below the waist or is the mind in the hands seeking a longitudinal pull with some technique?

I have been watching the McHatton dvd's and saw some drills but do not have the proper mental construct yet.

ICT

whip 04-25-2012 11:34 AM

Ict there is a picture in the book with a parachute attached to the clubhead on the downstroke, in the downstroke use your hips to drag the parachute open

innercityteacher 04-25-2012 12:09 PM

Nice!
 
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Originally Posted by whip (Post 91025)
Ict there is a picture in the book with a parachute attached to the clubhead on the downstroke, in the downstroke use your hips to drag the parachute open

So Byron Nelson popped the chute big time! Is that automatically the big "Reverse C?"

The Longitudinal drag is what about 2"?

ICT

whip 04-25-2012 12:52 PM

No reverse c required, Ben hogan popped it big time too. longitudinal dragging continues til the end of the delivery line and then the club switches ends in the release but you will feel as If the hips are dragging that club down plane all the way through the shot

MizunoJoe 04-25-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 91017)
Doesnt CF Throwout automatically at the bottom of the straight line delivery path assuming you're not holding it off with locked wrists?

Automatically, sometime after release, but it happens where the hands are, and if you drag the butt at the ball, PP#3 could end up pointing outside the plane line, in which case you could get an automatic shank. :crybaby:


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