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Old 08-13-2008, 01:27 PM
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There is a purpose to purposely "brake" which can change the angle of approach of the right forearm and increase the closing rate of the clubface
I understand the purpose, but I would question the precision.

When talking strictly about generating speed and "purposely braking", I think it's snake oil.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:34 AM
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I understand the purpose, but I would question the precision.

When talking strictly about generating speed and "purposely braking", I think it's snake oil.
I stand corrected.

Keeping the right foot on the ground through impact does slow down the hips.

Could this be a key for golfers to "snapping the kinetic chain" for more distance?

Here is a slow motion video of the late great Sam Byrd, Jimmy Ballard’s teacher.



Notice Sam's pivot which is nothing like Jimmy teaches or as I call it the flat footed pivot through impact.

I can see in this video that there is defiantly a “Snapping the Kinetic Chain” going on here. I did some testing on it a little tonight and I did produce a little more club head speed working with this pivot. The swing did feel more in sequence as well.

Sam Byrd learned this action from Bill Mehlhorn. I have seen video of Bill hitting balls doing it as well. Both Sam and Bill were long ball hitters.

I can remember just before I started working with Jimmy Ballard in the early 90's I use to have this flat foot pivot that I learned from my dad. I could hit my wood driver 270-280 down the middle. Then I changed my pivot to Jimmy Ballard's fire the right side pivot lifting the right heel of the ground well before impact and I was only hitting it 250 -260 with a slight pull. I even had a new Taylor Made bubble driver as well.

I have never gone back to the flat foot pivot but I think I will now.

Could this flat foot pivot be a key for golfers to snapping the kinetic chain better and add distance? I will find out. I will do some more testing with golfers and my swing and see.

It is amazing how much you can see with this old time footage!

Count Yogi has a flat foot pivot through impact too! Check out this video

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Old 08-14-2008, 06:03 AM
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I stand corrected.

Keeping the right foot on the ground through impact does slow down the hips.

Could this be a key for golfers to "snapping the kinetic chain" for more distance?

Here is a slow motion video of the late great Sam Byrd, Jimmy Ballard’s teacher.



Notice Sam's pivot which is nothing like Jimmy teaches or as I call it the flat footed pivot through impact.

I can see in this video that there is defiantly a “Snapping the Kinetic Chain” going on here. I did some testing on it a little tonight and I did produce a little more club head speed working with this pivot. The swing did feel more in sequence as well.

Sam Byrd learned this action from Bill Mehlhorn. I have seen video of Bill hitting balls doing it as well. Both Sam and Bill were long ball hitters.

I can remember just before I started working with Jimmy Ballard in the early 90's I use to have this flat foot pivot that I learned from my dad. I could hit my wood driver 270-280 down the middle. Then I changed my pivot to Jimmy Ballard's fire the right side pivot lifting the right heel of the ground well before impact and I was only hitting it 250 -260 with a slight pull. I even had a new Taylor Made bubble driver as well.

I have never gone back to the flat foot pivot but I think I will now.

Could this flat foot pivot be a key for golfers to snapping the kinetic chain better and add distance? I will find out. I will do some more testing with golfers and my swing and see.

It is amazing how much you can see with this old time footage!
Kenny Perry's not too old, but he certainly keeps the foot down through Impact. I often use something in my teaching to demonstrate this very point.

I have no issue with the segments slowing and transferring momentum to the next segment. It's the intent that I question. Do they slow? Yes. Can the intent to "brake" increase speed? I highly doubt it.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:15 AM
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Kenny Perry's not too old, but he certainly keeps the foot down through Impact. I often use something in my teaching to demonstrate this very point.

I have no issue with the segments slowing and transferring momentum to the next segment. It's the intent that I question. Do they slow? Yes. Can the intent to "brake" increase speed? I highly doubt it.
With the 3-D machines I can find out if a flat foot pivot or trying to brake the hips will add club head speed and if so can a golfer learn to do it. I am going to check it out. Here is a slow motion video of Tiger keeping the right foot down through impact.

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His foot is not flat at impact
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flat right foot and pivot rotation
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Neither of the above "snaps the kinetic chain", with the top a rotational "Swinger" and the bottom rotational "Hitter". How can someone snap the "Accumulators" with a flat trail foot?
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Neither of the above "snaps the kinetic chain", with the top a rotational "Swinger" and the bottom rotational "Hitter". How can someone snap the "Accumulators" with a flat trail foot?
What is your proof that this does not work Mr. Ying Yang and what does snap it?
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Neither of the above "snaps the kinetic chain", with the top a rotational "Swinger" and the bottom rotational "Hitter". How can someone snap the "Accumulators" with a flat trail foot?
depends how and when you exert pressure with your feet
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:23 AM
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I understand the purpose, but I would question the precision.

When talking strictly about generating speed and "purposely braking", I think it's snake oil.
I feel its helpful to those without enough pivot lag.. and have a shoulder the leads too far into the swing which would cause the person to look like they are bent over in the finish, or staying in their forward tilt whatever you want to call it...its a way to fix this...not necessarily a percision move but taking someone from one end of the spectrum to the other imop
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I understand the purpose, but I would question the precision.

When talking strictly about generating speed and "purposely braking", I think it's snake oil.
Yesterday, Yoda shared with me his conversation with Homer on this subject. I'll let him give the first hand account. But, I'm confident that Homer was of the same opinion.

Yoda leaves today for the Barclays, so I'm not sure when he'll get to a computer.
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