Lag Pressure, can it be sustained?

[Daryl]

Dear Padawan O.B. Left,

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to Load the #3 Pressure Point with a predetermined amount of pressure and maintain that pressure through Impact (and beyond if possible).

If you accomplish this feat, then you would have mastered the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and the Clubhead will not race ahead of the Shaft as in so many thousands of good examples of poor execution offered to explain the mysterious entity controlling and throwing-away the Clubhead just inches before impact.

Problem with most golfers is that they miss the "Hand Acceleration" phase of the sequence. People understand "Shoulder Acceleration" and "Clubhead Acceleration" around the Pulley but "Hand Acceleration" creates fear, even in some of our most seasoned Pro's. One can't cheat the Sequence and get away with it. You can't move from Shoulder Acceleration directly to Clubhead Acceleration and expect to maintain Clubhead Lag. (Actually, I have seen it done. Wow.)

Fortunately for you, I understand Hand Acceleration. And I will easily demonstrate, using High Speed Video, that anyone, using the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, can maintain Clubhead Lag through the Impact Interval with one hand tied behind their back. In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.

I look forward to you watching my soon to be released video series on "Right Forearm Participation" in the Golf Swing.

[whip]

Good post daryl

[O.B.Left]

Dear Padawan O.B. Left,

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to Load the #3 Pressure Point with a predetermined amount of pressure and maintain that pressure through Impact (and beyond if possible).

If you accomplish this feat, then you would have mastered the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and the Clubhead will not race ahead of the Shaft as in so many thousands of good examples of poor execution offered to explain the mysterious entity controlling and throwing-away the Clubhead just inches before impact.

Problem with most golfers is that they miss the "Hand Acceleration" phase of the sequence. People understand "Shoulder Acceleration" and "Clubhead Acceleration" around the Pulley but "Hand Acceleration" creates fear, even in some of our most seasoned Pro's. One can't cheat the Sequence and get away with it. You can't move from Shoulder Acceleration directly to Clubhead Acceleration and expect to maintain Clubhead Lag. (Actually, I have seen it done. Wow.)

Fortunately for you, I understand Hand Acceleration. And I will easily demonstrate, using High Speed Video, that anyone, using the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, can maintain Clubhead Lag through the Impact Interval with one hand tied behind their back. In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.

I look forward to you watching my soon to be released video series on "Right Forearm Participation" in the Golf Swing.

Thank you for this generosity , Jedi Master.

You say "maintain" lag pressure . Can you maintain the same amount of lag pressure? Without breaking your leg?

Are you able to sustain an amount of Lag Pressure past Low Point during what Homer termed the period of angular Deceleration ? I dont think so surely its falling off, no? The attempt to do so is a good one though, no doubt about it and I do love the Downstroke Sequence.

Hey I just hope I got some guys thinking in terms of Lag as Pressure. Lag Pressure is so important and I got sick of reading other forums where they were talking about inches of Lag or degrees of Lag or Lag as #2 angle and how its all so wrong. Which is often true using their definition of lag anyways. But thats not the lag Homer was talking about ....not at all. Lag and Acceleration are inextricably linked. Its not a golf thing only or a Homer invention it just is......take the baseball fielder who turns and whips a throw to the cut off man. What was his method of regulating the force required? Id say lag pressure. What if he suddenly changed his mind and threw to home plate? What mechanism regulated his application of force there? Id say Lag Pressure. And the regulation of the direction of his thrust? Id say Lag Pressure.


Cant wait to see your video D. Good luck with it. Hey did you really have dinner with ........ I think the guys participation here is confined to searching mentions of his own name so Im not going to say Mike O.'s name. OK? Its an old canadian trick.

[Daryl]

I'm with you on this one O.B. The Pressure can be maintained till the end of the pulley (Both Arms Straight).

In my video, Plane Line Tracing and Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and Right Forearm Angle of Approach are topics in the same chapter.

If you press your Right Elbow against your Side during the Downstroke, you'll avoid the Hand Acceleration Stage of the sequence. The Right Shoulder reaches its Max Speed very quickly then travels at a constant speed. Because the Hands haven't reached the Pulley for Clubhead Acceleration, Clubhead Lag Loss occurs. You can skip step one (use a Circle Path Delivery) and you can skip step three (Zero out #2 and 3) but you can't skip step Two.

Mike and I had dinner. We talked for about three hours mostly about HK but very little about TGM. The Capitol Grille in Chicago is probably not the place to demonstrate Horizontal Hinging. Maybe we should have met at a "Cracker Barrel". He's a really good guy. He's very pleasant and a good conversationalist. Not at all like the "Mikey" we know.

[O.B.Left]

I'm with you on this one O.B. The Pressure can be maintained till the end of the pulley (Both Arms Straight).

In my video, Plane Line Tracing and Downstroke Acceleration Sequence and Right Forearm Angle of Approach are topics in the same chapter.

If you press your Right Elbow against your Side during the Downstroke, you'll avoid the Hand Acceleration Stage of the sequence. The Right Shoulder reaches its Max Speed very quickly then travels at a constant speed. Because the Hands haven't reached the Pulley for Clubhead Acceleration, Clubhead Lag Loss occurs. You can skip step one (use a Circle Path Delivery) and you can skip step three (Zero out #2 and 3) but you can't skip step Two.

Mike and I had dinner. We talked for about three hours mostly about HK but very little about TGM. The Capitol Grille in Chicago is probably not the place to demonstrate Horizontal Hinging. Maybe we should have met at a "Cracker Barrel". He's a really good guy. He's very pleasant and a good conversationalist. Not at all like the "Mikey" we know.

Yah Ive talked to him a couple of times, he's a good man underneath that calculated internet persona. Sent me some very interesting stuff he's working on. Displaying Horizontal in a restaurant would be tuff ....specially if you fellas had your high heals on for the occasion. Wish I could hear the conversation , were you wearing a wire? (Microphone not bra that is.) High oh!

Seriously now .....Whens your video coming out, Daryl? Like your thoughts there. No hanky panky under the arm then, Independent Arm and Pivot Motion. Sing it Sista.

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Hey D something Ive been wondering about. "Lag Pressure has no Release Point" right in terms of our intentions. Im thinking were talking #3pp here only. Doesnt PIvot Lag have a Release? Im thinking it must for the much maligned Blast Off. Blast off is about to make a big comeback eh D?

[Mike O]

Mike and I had dinner. We talked for about three hours mostly about HK but very little about TGM. The Capitol Grille in Chicago is probably not the place to demonstrate Horizontal Hinging. Maybe we should have met at a "Cracker Barrel". He's a really good guy. He's very pleasant and a good conversationalist. Not at all like the "Mikey" we know.

Daryl had some really insightful ideas into the Golfing Machine, that showed me he's really put a lot of thought and study into the ideas in the book. I'd be very interested in his video. Hope he's able to produce it soon. I did have one idea after we met regarding the video. Instead of making a full production video, I thought - much like creating a rough draft for a book and getting feedback from an editor, I'd suggest making a crude rough video and then get observations and feedback from a few people - before making a final production video. Anyway, just an idea. Thanks for taking the time to meet me Daryl and providing dinner - next one's on me whenever our paths should cross again.

[Daryl]

Hi Mike

It's a lot of work and more than I ever imagined. But, a little more than a year later, I've documented the topics and reference numbers concerning the Right Forearm. The information is seemingly organizing itself into three lessons. I'm going with the flow. The outline:

Lesson 1: Hinging, Swivels
Lesson 2: Plane Line Tracing, Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, Right Forearm Angle of Approach
Lesson 3: Geometry of the Circle, Ball Position, Plane Angles.

Each is 30-60 minutes. That's not a problem for a five day seminar but its a killer problem for a "five minute Video".

[O.B.Left]

Hi Mike

It's a lot of work and more than I ever imagined. But, a little more than a year later, I've documented the topics and reference numbers concerning the Right Forearm. The information is seemingly organizing itself into three lessons. I'm going with the flow. The outline:

Lesson 1: Hinging, Swivels
Lesson 2: Plane Line Tracing, Downstroke Acceleration Sequence, Right Forearm Angle of Approach
Lesson 3: Geometry of the Circle, Ball Position, Plane Angles.

Each is 30-60 minutes. That's not a problem for a five day seminar but its a killer problem for a "five minute Video".

Hey D.

Have you considered the written word mixed with diagrams and links to video, instead of full on video? A whatcha ma call it? E book or whatever?

Imagine if Homer had the technology to do that back in his day. Imagine the videos ... his gizmos, models etc. Imagine more diagrams of the Geometry of the Circle. That would make TGM less obtuse in a hurry.

When you see the Geometry much of the book comes together, makes sense. Arc of Approach , Angle of Attack, Plane Angle etc all have different visual perspectives! Got to see the visual to follow along.

[Mike O]

[quote=Daryl;87082] In fact, I'll do it with one hand, while standing on one leg, while drinking a Martini, Blind-folded.
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Ah, you did that already - remember after dinner and the police officer pulled you over in downtown Chicago, driving me back to the Hotel. I told you to put the Martini down but no you had to show the officer what you could do - all on video tape of course.